2 months later the new battery is now dead and showed 4v. I will never buy another product from this company. On the road it is subjected to water, grit, oils etc and probably worth checking out in your maintainence schedule. Charges Motorhome 20267 km 4 people Dealer Used NSW Contact seller View details 20 Compare 2014 Avan Owen Limited Put some masking tape on the panels at the ends of the tapeto mark the positions. I'd also do a complete rewire/build for the 12V system with solar too, and probably modify the 240V as well. Body Length (Exterior): 4440mmInterior Length: 3615mmGarage Length (Overall): 5765mmTravel Height: 1720mmInterior Height: 2440mmWidth: 2075mmBall Weight (Approx): 100kgTare Weight (Approx): 940kgBerth: 3, Body Length (Exterior): 4440mmInterior Length: 3615mmGarage Length (Overall): 5765mmTravel Height: 1720mmInterior Height: 2440mmWidth: 2075mmBall Weight (Approx): 100kgTare Weight (Approx): 940kgBerth: 2. The salesman also pointed out the different dome options you mention as well, and I can definitely see the benefits of the larger ones. Very poor. All this need attention before taking the van onto the Dirt or encountering hundreds of Klms of Corrugations, Our van has been modified to do these sort of trips. ALKO IRS standard axle. Thanks, Terry Barr. Can you advise what tyre pressure we should have when on road travelling for our Golf Camper - Bush Challenger 4 - its been a couple of years since we have been on the road :). Wondering about ShortNorth ? I've had two poptop campervans in the past, along with a poptop caravan, but the Avan series of campers are totally different arrangement to any of these. We cant find online instructions/user manual for the control panel (water tank level, 12v battery charge etc). Bought avan despite salesman unable to answer the most basic questions about van. There are various Roof Lifters available a previous posters have mentioned. -- Edited by Brian Hovander on Monday 8th of May 2017 12:32:28 PM. However some say they are not meant for 'off road' driving. Just one problem .. the water pump??? WebSimple to erect Our Avan Awnings are easy to erect. fell in love with van, problem roll out awning it fell to bits and crap tyres only did about 5000 km, had to remove pipe from twin tanks hitting axel now have seperate tank fillers and piping to water pump, Will never enter this place again Michael is the rudest most arrogant salesman I have ever dealt with. With additional size and living space, the Cruiser and Cruiseliner models feature higher road clearance, upgraded chassis and bigger tyres than the Aliner model. The Australian AVAN CLUB is a great organisation with clubs in each state. Make sure the Nylon (Polystone) guides are still in place at the end of the Top Roof Panel. WebThe standard unit carrying load Avan applies is: Single Axle; 300kg. Hi - just wondered if there was anybody else there who is towing an Avan folding camper with a Forester. You can buy airbags that will lift the roof at the touch of a buttoncosts about $745 and was featured in the last Avan Club magazine.See the link belowlast page.Good Luck.EDIT club link removed - PM me if you want me to email you a copy of the advert. Neither of those options suited us, so we kept the van. Thanks for any help you can give! The walls have styrofoam cores but the forces can be now transferred to stronger locations inside the trailer (see article below). You can see how this is done in pictures for the problematic refrigerator vent area of my trailer. It took the combined effort of many engineers, etc. This 'Carrying Load' is for the customers individual weight requirements and can be made up of 'any' additional weight they propose to load the unit up of. Unsealed roads for an Avan are a no no!, Thank you for all your experience and knowledge and responses. This is a public forum presenting user opinions on selected products and businesses, and as such the views expressed do not reflect the opinion of ProductReview.com.au. Hi guys, by now I realise that there are a few Avan owners on the the forum and I am wondering if anyone has had to replace the high density adhesivefoam on side roof panels? If we're bushing it for a while we carry the equivalent of a second tank in Jerry cans in the car and depending where we're camping we usually can get another fill up if we go somewhere where there's potable water. This dealership will turn people off the AVAN brand which would be a real shame the vans are awesome its just this dealer that is disgraceful. The numbers from AVAN vary. It's a great club by the way and only people with pointy heads are eligible . Mitsubishi Outlander and rear end tent. Chief One Feather (Losing feathers with age), http://www.avanclubaust.org.au/501/Contact_Us/, http://www.avan.com.au/products_cruiser.html, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO1zqeizxHM. Donohue, Plenty, and lots of others over the years. Michael took my credit card details and said he would hold the van for 2 weeks while we waited for our insurance to process. Does anyone have a simple suggestion on a step we may be missing? What state are you in, nothing on your profile ? Had no problems at all - it seems to be well balanced and although you know the van is there it handles really well. I would like to fit an extra watertank to an Avan Cruiser. After numerous personal contacts the flyscreen has still not been replaced. How do you stop the top roof domes from coming open during travel? it is advisable to discuss with your Avan representative. On the back of my AlinerI had a large (long) wind out window, when visiting the cliff tops on the Nullabor, there was a howling northerly wind blowing out to sea. We drove in ok and parked sideways in the parking lot near the cliffs. As we were walking back to the van SWMBO said she thought the rear window was lifting. I had tighly closed with the chain and the window levers were down inside (I also had something on them to stop them fromvibrating up when down- Velcro I think). Yes it was smaller but build wise the same. I think you are right. But Why doesn't the pump STOP, Hi Bea, I'm no expert just handy :) My understanding is the pump maintains pressure in the line if it's left on. Charges Caravan 19ft / 5.79m 2 people Ensuite Private Seller NSW Contact seller View details 26 Compare 2008 Avan OSCAR $25,990 The tare and tow ball weight is only a guide and will change Some more than others. What some consider OFF ROAD is normal travelling for others. Do I need to replace the internal charger? Have checked outside the van for leaks, but no problems. They have known about this issue for at least two years and yet continue to promote a van with air conditioning knowing full well it doesn't work in a Cruiseliner.A-van keep referring back to the retaile. Avan themselves dont seem to care about there products once it leaves the factory. A van Aliner 2018 Model Brand New Camper Trailers. Mitsubishi Outlander and rear end tent. http://www.sccavanners.com/modifications.htm. The chassis/suspension upgrade and larger tyres would be a must have option I think. Particularly unethical in the cases where vans/trailers are optioned up without the purchaser being aware that the options are coming out of the ATM, not being added on to the AGM total (our first van situation). Had no trouble lifting the roof section on any of these. However, I am puzzled about what is written on the compliance plates. Cruiser's new sleek designs are a breeze to tow, giving you greater fuel economy. All the bits and pieces (ie fridge, fabric treatment etc) had their own pamphlets or manuals but nothing from Avan. Though he knew I did not have finance he told me that it didn't matter, that I just had to place a $3000 deposit on a van. Hi Bruce think about joining the Facebook group Avan Motorhomes. I am currently looking at buying a secondhand Avan Camper trailer (Aliner, Cruiser, Cruisliner), and am after the good oil on what to look for. The bumper bar on certain Avans is dangerous. Just a thought. http://www.tracktrailer.com.au/tvan_overview1.html. Further details in the disclaimer. . MY'03 XS AT offroad; MY10 Triton / L200 GLX-R MY'97 Outback RIP. My friend has an A-Van SportsLiner (the smallest 2 berth one that weighs about 700kg I think) and tows it with her 10 Forester XS auto and has been from one end of QLD to the other without much complaint other than the A-Van bounces around alot. JavaScript is disabled. Did anyone here taken the above camper/s on any offroad trip such as the Gibb River Road or similar and came home without any issues? Vic - Mitsubishi Outlander and rear end tent. Mazda BT50 towing a 22'6" Aussie Humpback. they are only about $6 each. I just wanted to mention tyre pressures, Avan stipulate very low tyre pressures (or did) I don't know if this was to stop damage from vibrations, however it was much too low. I put my tyres at a pressure recommended by tyre retailers and had no problems with the originaltyres going around Oz and they looked like new when I swapped them for light truck tyres.. A TVAN is a great up market off-road Campertrailer. You also need to know what your car weighs, then add the tow ball weight, the weight of your fuel (allow 1kg per litre), the weight of your stuff in the vehicle and the weight of your passengers and driver. Personally if I was interested in a car I'd contact the RACV technical dept, my local mechanic if I use one, and use online forums to tease out my knowledge base. I am in the process of buying a (new to me) car. I had an Aliner for 7 years (no front boot) but even that collapsed the rear springs of my Camry I was towing with, had to get heavy duty ones fitted. I also briefly had an Avan Alite (superceded bythe Sportsliner) which had after market gas struts fitted to aid lifting. See pic below; Thank you all - Happy Wanderer, Duh, Gerty Dancer, Dougwe, Cruising Cruze, Sheba and VK6TNC. On the other hand, a friend of mine kept his at the tyre pressures recommended by Avan and his tyres shredded part way around on his Around Oz adventure. I might sound a bit sceptical, but kept at their tyre pressures may have kept warranty claims down during the warranty period for vibration damage.. As said on my previous email, the most memorable times during our travels was with the Avan camper. I will just repeat the mod link again I provided earlier, it is a good one;http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ekthomas/mods.html, DOUG Chief One Feather (Losing feathers with age), TUG.2014 Holden LT Colorado Twin Cab Ute with Canopy, DEN. 2014 "Chief" Arrow CV (with some changes). This most recent modification was accomplished by a lady who enjoys such projects. The attached article is on my 2005 Aliner that was desperately needing a simple method of raising the roof panels. My panels raise up to 15" when the latches are released. Then I need to add a minor effort to raise them up to the fully up location. I used 40 pound springs on the first three. Today I would have used 30 pound springs (fully extended rating) on all four springs. Hope this helps. Be sure to keep the steel rod facing down so that the inner oil lubes the seals and the pressure is not lost. Information on this is included in my attached article. Try doing short trips on dirt like 20 ks or so to see how the vehicle handles it. Ive seen a PDF copy of an Aliner model owners manual, which does help, but I thought there would a similar manual available for the other models? Then fill your fresh water to see which gauge has changed so that is Fredh water. Avan Jensen 609 Adventure Pack On the other hand, a friend of mine kept his at the tyre pressures recommended by Avan and his tyres shredded part way around on his Around Oz adventure. INQUIRY TOPIC: AVAN CRUISELINER CAMPERS??- INQUIRY AVAN CRUISELINER CAMPERS??- INQUIRY Hi, I am just doing some research regarding Avan Cruiseliner or Bush Pack Aliner Campers and the do's & don'ts when considering them as an towing option. All I know about them is that they are lightweight ( 650kg) and easy to put up and tow. I hope you're pleasantly surprised, but I suspect it will not be so. Yes - it seems like a reasonable number. not hard to do. This seller works with a finance partner to offer you finance options to buy this caravan. I can't comment on a water reservoir's impact as I've never had one. Welcome to the forum Frannie, I was talking to a committee member of the WA branch of the A'van Club a few days ago about this, he said some of them had telescopic struts fitted on the outside to assist in lifting. All I 0 kg. I leave in a weekon my first solo trip sowill feel much more confident if I have a solution to this before I leave.. Cupboards fallen off the wall, Three way fridge came adrift and the condenser unit split and fridge written off. ? Do you have a Pic. That's only 60 odd ks but with the extras in the car it keeps us legal. Despite numerous attempts at contact no effort to return calls and emails to had resulted. Thanks Sam.Good advice.I'm still wondering why Avan has limited the ATM (the total weight of the unit) to 1,350kg, when the axles can take much more.With the tow ball mass rated at 160kg, why not match that with an ATM of 1,600kg?As you say, the van/trailer should operate satisfactorily beyond 1,350kg.Cheers,Alan. ! And, I'll beerecting the roofon my own each time. We took the caravan over on that date an hour and a half drive , the manager was not there , another employee told me that it he didn't think it was under warranty, but would find out, after waiting about an half hour he, Bob Jan Scott and all the staff were extremely helpful with the purchase of our new Avan 564 everything we asked for was carried out with fo fuss would recomend Avan Adelaideto anyone looking for a new vanThanksAndrew and Jenny Ba0, Hi Teddy if you have a Fiat Ducato the fuses are to the right of the steering wheel. Web searches have not revealed anyone havingsimiliar difficulties, nor solutions to my problem.Does anyone here have this problem, and if so, how do you manage? Sorry to hear about it, but it was the cheapest way they built the van in the cheapest possible way same with the suspension it's lousy if you want to go off road a little bit but for the rip I suggest put some the elastic banned around the winding knob to stop it from unwinding itself it could help when you shut it put elastic band closest to the base of the winder and that should help as it rattles loose on travel and slowly opens other than that you need to put latches on the outside off the Dome but you need somebody to do that. Finance available. Layouts & features are subject to change without notice. Hi we are new to caravaning & just sold our Jayco Hawk Outback which we had for a few years & loved it "no probs". The van is 2.4 years old, not many problems previously, but this time the bumper bar broke from the tack welding, which is only about an inch long on all four spots and will not tolerate-too much jarring, it was a shock to us, could have been serious if it had released entirely from the van totally re traffic following. Welcome Fran. Sorry about the green. That was the colour of the link 'till I made it clickable, so I'm stuck with it for the rest of this post. Lots of help available there, Hi we have a new to us avan Frances. Vic, yes I know what you mean by no offroad model, which is the one dissapointment I can see so far. So no matter what the obstacle you can put a gas spring at each corner. You may just need to find one that has the correct parameters to do the job. Most trailers should need about 30 pound force springs (give or take). That being said, I am seriously considering converting a Toyota Troop Carrier into a small expedition type vehicle which I know will tackle any situation I'm brave enough to try. Salesman used Misleading and Deceptive Conduct when selling me a van. Book a Consultation 03 9870 6102. Govt. It will be a bit limiting not to have that capability with the Avan when we want to get off the beaten track. Web2010 Avan CRUISELINER 5.9m (19ft) * If the price does not contain the notation that it is "Drive Away", the price may not include additional costs, such as stamp duty and other Just a note, don't over tighten and there should be a sleeve inside each end of the pipe line that supports the pipe at the joint. Mitsubishi Outlander and rear end tent. Chief One Feather (Losing feathers with age), http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ekthomas/tips.html, http://www.avan.com.au/products_aliner.html, http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ekthomas/mods.html. Fridge come out of its cabinet, Dust ingress, Stone Damage. I would never have taken it "off road". WebAvan Model: Cruiseliner 1D AD PLUS Price: $52,836 Year: 2022 Transmission: Auto Warranty: 2 Years Fa Stock Number: N2013 Cabins/ Features Seating Capacity: 2 Sleeping Capacity: 3 Air Conditioning: Yes Toilet: No Shower: Yes Fridge: Yes Microwave: Yes Stereo: Yes Suspension: Full Off-road Technical Specifications Garage Length: 5765 mm Went to update our 2005 avan only to find the quality of production has gone down hill dramatically. We rather like our little Aliner, and I'm sure if you make the decision to buy one, you won't regret it. The acetone was as useless as the proverbial you know what.it barely budged the remnants, whereas good old wd40 worked a treat. Drive away price is inclusive of all on road costs. WHY. We have for instance a Pressure System to keep the dust out. It Damn ,,, we need an Avan ,,, you guys have so much fun with them, There are 3 types of people in this world, Ones who make it happen, the second who watches what happens and the third who wonders what happened. Does anyone know or have any experience with this type of small camper please:? Just bought an Avan Adventure Plus Love it. Love what you do Do what you Love!! Think the 100 mm blower puts in about 270 cubic litres a minute. My question is the weight and towing. Govt. Ltd. All Rights Reserved. When switch turned on and the tap is opened the the pump is clearly audible. There are a couple on the forum and they might see your question and reply., DOUG Chief One Feather (Losing feathers with age), TUG.2014 Holden LT Colorado Twin Cab Ute with Canopy, DEN. 2014 "Chief" Arrow CV (with some changes). If you look at this A'Lite A'van, you will see where it has had gas struts fitted to help raise the roof. Govt. Your lights won't only work on 12v but also 240v when you plug it into say a caravan site. Camping gear has unsurprisingly been at the top of a lot of shopping lists this summer. Charges. Websome problems with van fell in love with van, problem roll out awning it fell to bits and crap tyres only did about 5000 km, had to remove pipe from twin tanks hitting axel now have Can't help you with off-road mods to an Aliner. Lots are well maintained roads that possibly will be closed when wet (this is for Protecting the road surface) Consider how much actual Dirt Road driving your rig will be doing. Drove to BorderVillage but no mechanic there or help, and at Eucla the mechanic was playing golf on a bush gold link somewhere (not the NullaborLinks) and was not expected back for some time. When I got to the border inspection they made me undo all the ropes and lift the roof a bit so they could inspect inside (bummer), the girl inspector crawled inside the partly open roof to check the fridge, at least I didn't have to lift the whole roof and only had to re-secure the ropes. Hi Mike, I sourced the tape from Clark Rubber and as per your suggestion chose the closed cell tape. Hi Sam-thanks for getting back on my query. Turn the tap off and the pump then appears to stop however somehow the pump continues on its merry way whirring very very quietly in the background almost silently draining the battery. Avan Campers Avan Campers Caravans amp Motorhomes. Reported it to dealer and they were not interested. I finally finished the job this morning, went with original quoted size of 3/4 inch (nearest metric) as the degraded foam had compressed. If there's a way you can bend your legs and use straight arms to position yourself before lifting, and then use the extra power of your legs to lift, that may help. You need to read all the facts about weight before buying the new vehicle. Adventure Pack Chassis 80w Solar Panel Large Rear Winding Dome Large Front Winding Dome Independent Suspension Tow Away $47,990. Here are the 7 most common problems with Aliner campers that you should consider before buying one: They Dont Offer Much Space Setup Can Be Difficult Aliners We are unable to get the ac power to work. My biggest issue really is getting the best size foam as it varies front to back on rear roof panel , ie 15mm down to 12mm, I guess this is down to movement in the frame. Just purchased the Avan Aspire 555 from Nowra. Applies is: Single Axle ; 300kg products once it leaves the factory buy... Gerty Dancer, Dougwe, Cruising Cruze, Sheba and VK6TNC keeps us legal driving... 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