Among his many punishments, he suffered cuts, a particularly brutal form of Naval punishment. The cold water often caused some boys to duck in and out of the water quickly or sometimes not at all. May 46 to HMS Wakeful, Training Flotilla for a twelve-week tour from . HMS Ganges was also known as Shotley Training Establishment . If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to Ganges Tales of the T.R.O.G.s Print length 264 pages Language English Publisher Second City Publishers, Penmarth, Cornwall Publication date 22 Nov. 1995 ISBN-10 090681605X ISBN-13 I told him "I don't give a flying feck!" yes I was there in 92 .Essex, Nolfolk , Herts Suffolk and Cambs police all used it. St George IOM Boys training 3/5/45 Christmas leave 45 took all kit and returned to Ipswich station, then by the ubiquitous 3 ton Bedford to Shotley where we reopened HMS Ganges as a boys establishment. When I say there was sexual abuse Im speaking from personal experience. H.M.S. Steve Tarr. Former recruit John Youngman said it would be "nice to see it restored to its former glory". Was anything in this navy free from fear? The mast has been a local landmark since it was. CEM1 Served from 1972 - 1978 Served in HMS Ganges. She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. The association said it had about 3,000 members and at the time of the offences its income from membership fees was about 30,000 a year. Nevertheless, as bad and as cruel as I have describe Ganges, I remain proud to call myself a Ganges Boy. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. Boys normally signed up to a contract of 12 years, which would leave most of them aged in their late 20s after their tours. Rather than do the two as a pongo I signed on the dotted line for a dozen , best thing I ever did and I regret not staying in for the full time . 1959 and what a bugger Ganges turned out to be. On October 28 the White Ensign was lowered for the last time and the ships figurehead was transferred to Royal Hospital School, Holbrook. They were both Ordinary Seamen, one aged 17 and the other aged 18. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to HMS Ganges Museum is dedicated to the 160,000 boys who went through the gates as boys and marched out as men, from its inception as a Royal Navy Training Establishment in 1905 to its closure in 1976. Every letter, every strip of tape had to be in a perfect line. I was out of there in an instant, but never said a word to anyone, I was just happy it was over and I had qualified. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. While I was going through the various calls I felt his hand slipping up the back of my shorts. John Garrett. In 1907, its famous 143ft (44m)-high training . A Gannett Company. Recruits used to climb the 143ft (44m)-high mast in formation, with the "button boy" standing on a small, circular platform at the very top, hands-free, but with his legs resting against a metal supporting bar. Graduating from Ganges held the promise of better times ahead, we would be real sailors, excited at the prospect of visiting far off and exotic lands. Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. Statistics for the 1930s indicate some 200 official canings per year in HMS Ganges alone, an average of four per week. Abuse Details. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Maybe we boxed each other in the Shotley annexe! Even by naval training standards life there was controlled by a very strict regime. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 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I allowed my head to tilt backward, sending my gaze to the very top, to the lightning conductor where the Button Boy stood on ceremonial occasions. We had just finished PT before going to supper, so I was in shorts. 5.0 out of 5 stars A real trip down memory lane. HMS Ganges as a training ship in the 1900s, HMS Ganges being broken up after training was transferred to the land base at Shotley, The boys climbed the mast whenever the base received high-status visitors, and as part of their training, The sailors in training doing exercises outside the gym, The honours board from the HMS Ganges, showing the victories of all the Royal Navy ships bearing the name. The number of air raids at Shotley began to increase dramatically and its ratings soon had to go to the air . At Gagnes they spent 12 months training, and they learned everything you need to do to run a ship. You are using an out of date browser. RM B54PCM - Twiggy the baby elephant was half an hour late for her appointment to 'tow of the premises', the 47 year old Captain Derek Napper Napper, skipper of HMS Ganges the naval training school at Shotley Suffolk, and found she had been replaced by a couple of horses. On his 15th Birthday he was sent, with 2000 other boys, to the notorious HMS Ganges training establishment at Shotley Point where a harsh regime held sway. Mr W Im sure the surprise and very welcome CD that popped through my letter box today was from you dear sir, so thanks very much and Im looking forward to listening to it very soon. Rumour had it many years ago a boy did fall, bouncing off the safety net and through the Post Office roof. Sailors' uniforms were a familiar sight in our area until HMS Ganges closed in June 1976. Please Login or Register. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. One not only suffered the punishment such as doubling up and down the steps of laundry hill with a 303 rifle held high. From the annexe, I had sometimes seen it, partly hidden by snowy skies as it towered above the buildings, and it looked frightening then, but now, marching beneath its cobweb rigging, it looked truly awesome. The rest of the class were not pleased to suffer because of one boys stupidity and sometimes made a cruel point of letting the culprit know. I would imagine it will be a number of years before we see the final product but Ive seen first hand how quickly they can actually make progress once the builders get going. Not to the required half-moon, but to the first platform, where, when authoritative eyes were averted, I dashed to the other side and climbed back down.. Boys were permitted to march through the streets of Ipswich with bayonets fixed. I knew a gentleman who said when he was at Ganges in 1947 he had his first taste of hot food. what an incredible article, thanks for that dave, how far did you get up that mast? One lad, a Geordie, was drafted early to a Destroyer bound for the Mediterraniann sailed from Plymouth He was washed overboard on his first few hours at sea..His parents never knew of the misery he suffered at Ganges. 1976. Initially, training continued to be carried out on the vessel, but after the completion of a shore-based facility at Shotley, the ship was sent to be broken up. Real posh supercilious bastard. Well this seems a good time to see if this site works properly. Sad to see such an establishment close as it was so full of history and meant so much to so many. The kindly chef asked me whether I intended to eat the mountain of food I'd heaped on my plate or climb it! The Admiralty decided that the shore base should bear the name of the original training ship, HMS Ganges. Restoration of the historic HMS Ganges Mast is well under way at Barrelmans Point in Shotley. I wondered, sewing, perhaps! H.M.S. She was established as a boys' training establishment in 1865, and was based aboard a number of hulks before moving ashore. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. Change). Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. 'Letters back to front, remember!' Some boys were home sick, some just tried to stay out of trouble, one or two ran away. HMS Ganges was a "stone frigate" or land-based institution for the Royal Navy, and between 1905 and 1976 was one of the key training bases used to prepare sailors to defend Great Britain. . Every new recruit was required to climb it, not to the very top but to the half moon, about thirty-feet from the top. Roger Jones, chairman at the HMS Ganges Museum said: "HMS Ganges was originally a ship of the wooden wall, launched in 1821. The overall height is 143 feet 10 inches, with the button being 11 inches diameter and 3 inches thick. "Boys came into Ganges at age 15 and went into the navy as men at 16. HMS Ganges was a training ship and later stone frigate of the Royal Navy. I came across a clip on youtube that really saddened me and it tells its own story about the UK as it is now and the real fact that such things as pride, standards etc have long been lost and decay and neglect are the order of the day, I do not need to walk very far from my home to see with my own eyes the evidence all around me. Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. Ganges will for ever be the legacy of every young boy who passed through those distant gates to emerge as a sailor and a man. As a matter of interest how many of you did your 22 and beyond not many I suspect therefore you look back with nostalgia, fcuking hated the place and made certain I never treated any of my guys the same as the youngsters were treated there. It was as we crossed the parade ground the whole bunch of us suddenly froze and spun to face a huge aircraft-hanger-of-a-building running along its length. joined in '63 Dreadnought in the Annexe and Duncan in main camp, Went swimming at Vincent before colling-grad got its pool, and sailing if my memory is not totally shot, I sometimes considered climbing to the top of the mast a tossing myself off. George Douglas Blake HMS Warspite. I joined Ganges 30th June 1955 also as a boy telegraphist. The one chippy bugger who thought it good fun to make you spar with him in the wash room (Annexe) I met up with in the Far Flung and gave him more than he gave me. A planning application for the site was submitted and outline permission was granted in 2015. Yes indeed, they were the best of times and the worst of times. Aerial artist's impression of one of the green spaces earmarked for the former HMS Ganges site in Shotley Gate. Royal Navy 238217 Ordinary Seaman HMS Niobe . 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It. It had to be neatly folded and stacked, each item one above the other, with each item measuring exactly nine inches wide and one inch flat. Padre Weekes was always good for a fag and Jim Conroy (PTI) taught me to yodel. 1905 to 1976 saw 150,000 recruits pass through HMS Ganges. By creating an account you agree to us emailing you with newsletters and discounts, which you can switch off in your account at any time. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS (Image: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS). The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships from 1779 onwards, but in 1905 it was chosen for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich, where about 500 boy recruits were. The HMS Ganges site was initially opened in 1904 acted as a boys training facility for the Royal Navy. Find out more about HMS Ganges at www.hmsgangesmuseum.com, or visit the museum, located at the end of King Edward VII Drive, in Shotley, IP9 1QJ. 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