PAUL FLORES: On the advice of my attorney . But as Chris Lambert learned, Flores's pattern of behavior with women didn't stop. PODCAST EPISODE 4: So, I walk him up to his sister's apartment, and all of a sudden, he just like picked me up, carried me inside, turned around and shut the apartment door, and locked it. 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. PODCAST EPISODE 1: Kristin broke down begging her mother to let her drop out and go somewhere else. These new allegations against Paul Flores are very troubling and deserve to be thoroughly investigated. Chris Lambert: As they describe it, Paul Flores just sort of appears out of nowhere. SHERIFF IAN PARKINSON [at press conference]: Forensic physical evidence was located. LOS ANGELESShe remembers being dragged down Elm Street as she vomited, propped up by a young man and his pal who snickered and cursed her. There was no reaction until the dog reached Paul Flores's room. Like the rest of the family, Kristin was an athlete. Chris Lambert was just 8 years old when Kristin Smart vanished on her way home from a college party in San Luis Obispo, California. The sheriff's office still wasn't convinced they had enough evidence against Flores. And then months and months later, they'd reach back out and say, can you get us in touch with this person again? Chris Lambert's podcast,"Your Own Backyard," has become a big hit attracting millions of listeners eager to hear every detail surrounding this unsolved case of Kriistin Smart. Detectives asked Flores about a visible black eye on his face. Nearly a week after their arrests, father and son both pleaded not guilty in San Luis Obispo County Superior Court. So, she slowed down and walked with them. Chris Lambert told Jonathan Vigliotti, "It drove [Mary Lassiter] crazy and she went out there many times in the middle of the night to try to find it with sticks, sticking down into the planter boxes down in the soil." JAMES MURPHY: Does your son have any information as to where Kristin Smart's body is located? It's fine. The duplex was located up the same street from where her mom resided. The family attorney refused to comment when reached by The Daily Beast. He was seeing someone on the side who he called his friend, she said. James Murphy: And it's 2:30 and 3 o'clock in the morning at Cal Poly this is not a a location from which Paul alone could easily move a body without a vehicle. Denise Pearce: The investigation was completely botched by the campus police. I was throwing up and they were saying Oh this bitch! and This bitch better not throw up on me.. Lindsey Smart Stewart: She definitely, like, took advantage of life, seized the day she was super ambitious and was determined you know, to find the next adventure. Susan's house was finally searched in March 1997 nine months after Kristin disappeared but nothing was found. She spotted an ad for a rental that a woman named Susan Flores had put in the local newspaper. You wouldn't let any of your friends be drunk around him. When they were deposed by James Murphy, they also insisted their son was not involved. The Smart family. Around 2 a.m., party-goer Tim Davis told Smart that she could not spend the night passed out on the party houses front lawn because it was too cold. Flores wasn't talking. He believes that meant "the batteries went dead and that the object that was beeping hadn't been there very long.". James Murphy: An eyewitness actually documented the fact that throughout the night that there was activity in the area of the underside of that deck. And there were those nonstop tales of Flores being touchy-feely with her friends. Flores allegedly told campus police, I did not find Kristin attractive. (The office hired a detective in 2015 to work on Unsolved Crimes for $15,000 a month: There are four open homicide investigations and Smarts remains an unsolved missing persons case. San Luis Obispo County. Because of the statute of limitations, Dow says, Paul Flores can't be charged with rape. Remember, Flores's room had been emptied and thoroughly cleaned. Neither the ex-boyfriend nor Sarah saw Flores again until they read The Daily Beast story on Kristin Smarts disappearance, where Floress mugshot appeared. E Branch St, Arroyo Grande, CA Plus Addresses In Torrance, CA | San Pedro, CA Relatives Paul Ruben Flores Ermelinda Marie Flores Susan P Flores Paul F Gil View details Phone Numbers (805) nay - peek (805) nay - peek + 1 more View Details AGE 40s Ruben D Flores Santa Barbara, CA (Mesa) Aliases Ruben Flores-Diazchavez Ruben D Flores Espinoza Flores roommate was out of town that weekend, and Paul knew he had three full days in that room (alone), Peuvrelle told the jury. Despite identifying a prime suspect for her murder, law enforcement did not arrest Flores until 2021. Smart was last seen with Flores's son Paul. They have not been able to proceed with the civil case while there was an ongoing criminal investigation, but that didn't stop them from following every lead and preparing for an eventual trial. Jonathan Vigliotti: They thought she was off possibly having fun. You can go." Denise Pearce says that was a crushing blow for the Smart family. She regretfully denounced them as cruel rumors at the time. In the fall of 1996, a young mother named Mary Lassiter was looking for a house to rent in Arroyo Grande, California. That warrant allowed them to dig up the backyard, but deputies chose not to excavate. The moment still haunts her. Like the Smart's civil case, theirs also has been on hold. It was updated on October 22, 2022.). Denise Pearce: Kristin hasn't come home And we're not sure where she is We don't know anything. 1996 was before the #MeToo movement, Peuvrelle told the jury. We are grateful to these brave women for having the courage to talk about their experiences and we ask anyone who may have information they think could be helpful to contact the San Luis Obispo County Sheriffs Office. Her younger sister Lindsey says their mother urged Kristin to go there. Kristin Denise Smart (born February 20, 1977, legally presumed dead May 25, 2002) was an American woman who is presumed to have been abducted, raped, and killed at the end of her freshman year of college on the campus of California Polytechnic State University San Luis Obispo. And for a few moments Jane came to and saw Flores having his way with her. People who were there have said she was intoxicated. His parents have always denied knowing anything about Kristin's disappearance and insist their son was not involved. Paul had this look on his face, the relative said. But Margarita says, the police did not seem concerned. They were giggling as they were dragging me, the now 39-year-old woman told The Daily Beast. We both were kids at the same school and so I felt comfortable. James Murphy: Paul Flores had a reputation amongst the girls that knew him at Cal Poly as being a creeper that he was always trying to hit on women. He slammed me and then pushed me up against the inside wall by the toilet, his hands were on my upper arms and he started telling me all these sick things he was going to do to me.. Chris Lambert: Kristin's father would come down and hike every trail he could find on the Central Coast. So, they did not immediately get a warrant to search Susan Flores's home. James Murphy: To see them in custody was a feeling of great joy for me. I don't think she went back to her dorm at all. When he arrived she stayed at home while Janes father hightailed it to Arroyo Grande Community Hospital. Two days after Kristin Smart vanished, Paul Flores went to the Arroyo Grande Police Department because of an outstanding DUI warrant. A . Over the years, while Stan Smart hiked every trail around California's Central Coast in hopes of finding Kristin's remains, Denise relentlessly pushed law enforcement to do more. I remember thinking he was right behind me in the doorway and I think he was trying to get to the door before I could shut it., Sarah said she was quickly manhandled by Flores. They took off running, Jane said. Margarita Campos: To this day, like, I was like, why why did I just let her go by herself? Chris Lambert: It's mostly frat guys from the Kappa Chi fraternity. All four dogs, including one who was considered the best of the best, separately signaled an alert indicating the presence of human remain odors only in Flores room. The woman, whom well call Jane, believes she was roofied, raped, and discarded by Paul Flores and his nameless friend when she was a 15-year-old high-school sophomore in 1994. James Murphy: Well, the location where all this activity occurred is where they found the biological material. The Arroyo Grande home of Ruben Flores is being searched today for the remains of Kristin Smart. When authorities later confronted him with the two stories, Flores admitted lying and offered a new explanation. Dave Minsky,. She made a decision that shes regretted ever since. We just, "do you know anything about it". PODCAST EPISODE 1: I googled Kristin Smart's name every few years. By this point Sarahs ex-boyfriend arrived and he and his friends scared Flores and his pal, trying to make sure they never showed their faces again. 1998 - 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. | All Rights Reserved. And six months later, when Flores was deposed by James Murphy for the Smart's civil suit, he kept quiet. And they told Lambert they weren't surprised when they heard about Flores's connection to Kristin's disappearance. But he entreated each woman who came forward to tell their story to The Daily Beast to reach out to his department. On Monday, deputies served a sealed search warrant at the home of Ruben Flores. AKA: Susan Flores, Sue P Flores. Margarita Campos: I mean, she was gone. But every Sunday when she called her parents, they encouraged her to stick it out. And yes, we believe it's linked to Kristin. That would be Susan Flores, the owner of the home where Flores is suspected to have buried Smart. That mother, Mary Lassiter, described it to Chris Lambert. Chris Lambert: Kristin became incredibly intoxicated, whether she was drugged or whether she just had a lot to drink in a short amount of time She ends up passed out on the lawn next door. Flores has never been charged in this case. 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